How to win in November

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If fighting pork is not the right way to get the base unified for victory in 2006, then what is? I'll tell you.

Zero baseline budgeting: This reform idea was part of the Contract with America, but unfortunately seems to be an element of that package that failed to pass. Because today we are still stuck with a broken baseline budgeting system that makes it easy to spend upwards of two trillion dollars ($2,000,000,000,000) a year without turning off the autopilot.

There are other budgetary reforms possible, such as earmark reform, but even opponents of so-called pork cannot point to such spending as being a significant part of that two trillion. Further, pork spending is a highly emotional matter on both sides, straining needlessly our party unity in a time of war. So zero baseline budgeting should not only be a more effective spending check, but it should be better politics, too.

Renewed immigration enforcement: Mike Pence has proven that the anti-illegal immigration wing of the party is not unified behind Tom Tancredo, so proponents of unskilled laborer immigration should know they can get that at any time. Therefore, the Republicans should be free to prepare for such a reform immediately by renewing our commitment to enforce the laws on the books today.

Neither the failure of the Senate to pass H.R. 4437 nor the House failure to pass S. 2611 has the effect of wiping out previous immigration laws from the books. Until such time as a new bill passes, the existing laws should be enforced as a show of good faith. After all, why bother to change the law if we know it won't be enforced anyway?

Win the War: This should be obvious, but this year we are seeing too many Republicans run against the President on the War on Terror at home, in Iraq, at Guantanamo Bay, and in the rest of the world.

We need to talk as aggressively about the last five years as we did in 2004. Imagine if the Democrats were in power these last two years, and we were now reading stories about all those planes exploding in the air. We would be reading about how people died in the explosions, how some survived that but died in the succeeding crashes, how others survived that but drowned in the ocean, and lastly the few who could be rescued out of the water after all that. Can we afford to stop the war and live through something like that?

Fight judicial activism: Again, this should be obvious. Does anyone think that the fight against the 'living Constitution" is over now that Justice Alito is hearing cases?

President Bush can help the Congress on this by making an aggressive series of Judicial nominations, and the Senate leadership can help itself by doing what it can to force votes on each and every one of them.

We can do this. We can win, and we can win together.

Certainly not by qlangley

>>Does anyone think that the fight against the 'living Constitution" is over now that Justice Alito is hearing cases?

Since we have yet to learn how Roberts and Alito will vote; since they replaced on the Court Rehnquist, who was pretty reliably conservative, and O'Connor who was deeply conservative on some issues - including federalism and property rights; no it isn't over. I am not yet convinced that the Supreme Court is any better than it was two years ago. Indeed, of the three principled votes against Raich Vs Gonzales, two are now off the Court. And the two replacements have a history of working with the Federal government. I fear that on federalism the Court has probably gone backwards.

Quentin Langley
Editor of http://www.quentinlangley.net

The Court is infinitely better than it was before Roberts and Alito made their way to the court - but with Kennedy getting into his 70s now, Stevens at 86, at Ginsberg in her mid-70s, we still need one more 2-term president committed to restoring the judiciary in order to really put the court away for awhile and get a majority willing to undo some of the court's most egregious errors. Once Kennedy has lost his status as the court's "moderate" fulcrum with a conservative appointment to replace Stevens or Ginsberg, I think he'll find his job to be relatively less glamorous and exit soon thereafter.

Roberts is more or less a Rehnquist clone plus charisma, and Alito is solidly to the right of O'Connor.

We will see by qlangley

>>Roberts is more or less a Rehnquist clone plus charisma,

We will see. We have heard predictions before about the way Republican appointees would vote. Let's wait and see how they *actually* vote.

>>and Alito is solidly to the right of O'Connor.

I don't care about his political views. I want to know how he will vote on the Court. Which right do you mean? He might be against Roe; he might be against affirmative action. Let's wait and see.

I would be *amazed* if he is as strong on federalism as O'Connor was, but then, I doubt that Bush appointed him with that in mind. The administration was, after all, the winning party in the disgraceful Raich vs Gonzales.

Quentin Langley
Editor of http://www.quentinlangley.net

There could easily be two Court appointments next year. Stevens will pass 90 before Bush's term elapses. He was rumoured to be thinking of retiring in 1999 to avoid the chance of a Republican appointing his replacement. Then he hung on for 2005, but that didn't work out for him. I am sure he would love to hang on for 2009, but may be physically unable. I suspect he is hoping the Democrats take the Senate in November, to at least dilute the impact Bush will have on his replacement.

He has already been observed to fall asleep in Court sessions.

Ginsburg is much younger, but a cancer survivor. She too may be hoping that the Democrats win the Senate.

But either way, both may have resolved to pack it in next year.

Quentin Langley
Editor of http://www.quentinlangley.net

Zero baseline budgeting by David Hinz

While zero baseline budgeting is good fiscal policy I'm not convinced its a political strategy to hang your hat on. Why? Because most American's have no clue what it means. Any issue that you have to spend better than 50% of your time explaining to to the voters, is a losing issue. Tax cuts they (think) they understand. Social Security, they (think) they understand! Baseline budgeting is foreign to them.

When I explain to people how baseline budgeting works in our government, I can always see the point at which their eyes glaze over...and comprehension stops.

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It's an appeal to the base by Neil Stevens

Right now a hunk of the base is in an uproar over spending. If we revived zero baseline budgeting, it ought to pacify those people.

Isn't that what the party does all the time these days: pinpoint the right part of the message for each individual person and group talked to? You mail zero baseline stuff to people who read sites like Red State and Cato, and just don't bother talking about it to everyone else.
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You May Be Right... by EzOnTheEyez

...but the education has to start sometime. Perhaps ruminations about it now, and then start the education in earnest after the 2006 election to get geared up for 2008.

And combine it with a flat income tax proposal to lower all income taxes down to the lowest current rate. :-)

Peanut-counters by Robert A. Hahn
    the education has to start sometime

Might as well start right now. Zero-based budgeting was introduced in the federal government in 1977 by president Jimmy Carter. Like everything else Carter did, it was a rousing success. Federal spending was soon brought under control and we lived happily ever after.

Now you tell one.

Drink Good Coffee. You can sleep when you're dead.

Carter and 0BB by Neil Stevens

The wrong man can wreck any good idea, especially when backed by a Congress still heavily influenced by the Watergate class.

One big reason, though, that I want to see 0BB in place: to take away an excuse to curb growth in some programs. Under the existing system, holding spending in place counts as a 'cut' and the press reports it as such. So if we want to make CPB take no more than it got last year, we're cutting Big Bird's ears off.
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Maybe we need to come up with a new name for it, but it is certainly not a hard thing to understand. It could be easily explained to the masses, if we had any interest in doing something about it. That is where the real problem lies.
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Dead on, particularly here: by spainishirish

We need to talk as aggressively about the last five years as we did in 2004.

If this election can be fought offensively rather than the pure defense we see now, it can be won. Otherwise, the public will see the GOP's posture as a tacit admission of fear and weakness and the Democrats narrowly will take the House and come close in the Senate.

Zero over two by Dan McLaughlin

My sense is that zero-based budgeting would be practical only if married to another good idea, the two-year budget cycle, as the combination would give more time for meaningful Congressional oversight of the budget.

"No compromise with the main purpose, no peace till victory, no pact with unrepentant wrong." - Winston Churchill

As is, the first year of a new president, the government is still running on the budget of his predecessor. Among other things, this is why people blame Bush for the deficit; even though the 2001 budget was Clinton's and ran a deficit, people think 'Bush was the president, he's responsible'.

Two-year budgeting would mean that a new president would be dealing with his predecessor's budget for half his term, instead of just a quarter of it. Otherwise, I agree, it's a good idea.

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If Clinton passed budgets in 93, 95, 97, and 99, then the last budget would carry over only one year, same as now.
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I don't know why Republicans can't get behind the following, just as strongly as they're behind the border fence:

Just as important as having a good fence on a nation's border, is having a second-tier "fence" at all points where American citizens (and legal residents) receive their job offers and their government services. That second-tier "fence" is a (digitally-encoded) biometric identification system--a card-based system connected to every American employer and airport clerk just like the whole MasterCard and Visa system are connected to every gas pump at your local BP station. The only extra wrinkle with a biometric ID card is making sure that the ID belongs to you, as well as that it's an authentic government-issued card. To do that, they add a digitally-encoded biometric element to the card. Maybe iris scan data. That's when the federal government can finally get real serious about busting employers who hire illegals--can finally know that the charges will stick. And when employers finally have absolutely no excuses anymore for accepting a phony ID from an illegal alien. No more "it looked okay to me...." It’s not up to him. It’s up to a machine.

I think that's a part of the Pence Plan, too. But I think I've also read that they've found a way to hack these cards - John McCain's promises that they are unhackable aside (as soon as he said that, I knew that they'd be hacked - he was just inviting trouble when he declared them to be unhackable. LOL)

You should need these cards in order to vote, also, and they indicate whether or not you are licensed to drive so you don't have to carry around multiple forms of ID.

There are no plans that I know of to introduce a biometric ID for all Americans. It's not in the Pence proposal, which is the House plan with some objectionable amnesty and guest-worker provisions tacked on.

I can't see a national biometric ID getting through the political system. Too many people would oppose it, for different reasons.

Nobody has proposed issuing cards to American citizens. That makes these "biometric card" proposals completely pointless. Given a choice between making an "unforgable" biometric green card or a SS card that a 4 year old could almost forge on his Speak N Spell, they will go for the latter.

I have no problem with a national ID since we effectively already have one with our state driver's licenses and SS numbers.
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"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work, the more I have of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

so I don't think we should make a national ID card a drivers license as well. Leave that function with the states, and let driver licenses be what they started out as: a license to drive and not much more. Private businesses could still accept them as ID (for liquor sales etc.) if they were so minded but for all security and citizenship related matters a national ID or legal alien card should be used. (On the other hand this ID must not display any info except the bearer's full legal name and a photo-- not addresses, birth date and certainly not SS#. They must not become a gold mine of info for any ID thief that finds or steals one.)

That the driver's license cannot be integrated into the card. Your DL status could still be controlled by the state you live in... that card number would simply be the key the state uses to keep track of your record and status... so when a cop goes to verify your license status, endorsements, etc, they will be able to do it with the national ID. I don't see the problem there.

I don't have a problem with addresses and birth date on the card or anything else we have on DLs right now. I agree that SSN should not be on the card. It does need to be verifiable with the card, but that could be done with public key cryptography.
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"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work, the more I have of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

Maybe we could... by birdmojo

give tattoos to citizens. On the back of the right hand or maybe on the forehead, if they're willing. We could make it so that they have to present this tattoo if they want to buy food or something.

Man is free at the moment he wishes to be. --Voltaire

Or just tinfoilhattery? Do you have a SSN and a DL now?
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"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work, the more I have of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

Revelations 13:16-17 --

And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

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Pork Busting by kchand

The better thing to run on his a HISTORY of pork busting; not more talk about it.

Zero-based budgeting can be tracked back to Jimmy Carter. He was a big proponent and applied it as governor in GA. That, alone, proves its weakness.

ZBB is one of those things that sounds good, like socialism, but is unworkable.

Anything that makes the budget process more transparent and spending more politically difficult is a good thing. It isn't like "socialism" in any way. It might not be a 100% solution, but it is certainly better than what we got.
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"I am a great believer in luck. The harder I work, the more I have of it." -- Thomas Jefferson

but it's only weakness is political. It assumes that every budget unit starts with zero dollars and has to justify its budget request from that, not from last year's "base," or from some built in inflation base.

The two things you have to overcome are, first, every program in existence had fifty percent plus one at some time and has a constituency, so the people who supported it want it to keep running and usually want more money for it; and, secondly, the real weakness of incremental budgeting is the fact that it punishes good managers. If you bring your program in under budget, your budget for next year gets cut, no matter your needs for next year. That's the reason for the end of the fiscal year spending frenzy in government; if you lapse money (don't spend budgeted money) either the budget office in the executive branch or the legislature or Congress says, "well, you got by on $X last year, so that's all you get this year. No 'crat is going to let that happen if he/she can help it.

In Vino Veritas

50% +1 by Neil Stevens

It's not entirely true that every program had 50% + 1 support previously. Some programs get in by compromise either immediately within a bill, or by various vote trading schemes.

Two programs each with 25% + 1 can piggyback (heh) to meet the threshold, theoretically. Of course, in practice, it's easier for two programs near 50% to get over the top. Alaska and Hawaii's own congressional delegations have such a deal in effect, do they not?

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By whatever means the bill establishing the program passed. Every bill has all sorts of horse and vote trading. While I agree with you that a program on its own might not have majority support, I know how to walk a legislative hall with a chit sheet, and so do lots of other people. There's a reason for that thing about sausage and laws.

I think the AK and HI thing has more to do with Stevens and Inouye's personal relationship than anything else; they served together in WWII or something. AK and HI don't have much in common other than hatred of the Jones Act.

In Vino Veritas

judicial activism by Jon Sandor

We have recent rulings from Justice Stephens and Judge Diggs to drive home the importance of appointing good people to the courts. It's a mystery why the GOP has given up on this issue - perhaps the "moderate" wing has put the brakes on the whole thing.

GOP & The Judges Campaign by EzOnTheEyez

I'm thinking that the GOP doesn't think that the judge issues is a winner in the majority of the districts where the GOP is really in trouble (the northeast, especially NY, CT, PA, & RI) and where they are credibly challenging (WA, MI, MD). It's probably a winner for the GOP in Missouri, Montana, and Ohio, though.

Also... by EzOnTheEyez

...thanks to the efforts of John McCain and Lindsey Graham to block the imminently qualified and superb nominee William Haynes to the Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit, it's more difficult to use it as a purely partisan wedge this election cycle - all Democrats will have to do is point to that in order to deflect a lot of heat from themselves.

ZBB will never pass by The Gadfly

because it would make congresscritters accountable for the deficit. Other than that it might work.

Whatever the focus is by Liz A Mair

It needs to be fiscal. There are a lot of Republicans who cannot get enthused about voting for people who appear to put social issues ahead of everything else, especially since many of us are tax and spending hawks and are pissed off about the amount of spending and the LBJ-esque increase in the size of government under this Administration, with the aid of Congress. Especially when coupled with the fact that it looks like Congress has been more concerned with banning gay marriage than cutting spending, or pursuing further tax reforms (there are many that should be pursued).

I'm ducking right now, awaiting the hail of stones that are about to come my way from those who think that gay marriage is a bigger problem than too-high taxes, government spending, and big government, generally. But I still say that the fiscal stuff gets a far greater proportion of Republicans motivated when it is prioritized than does the social.

The two year budget is a good plan. Lamar Alexander has been talking about that since, gosh, 1996 (I think? Certainly I was in college at the time and it made me very favorable to him). Getting rid of pork works for me, too, because even if that accounts for a very small amount of spending, it is the worst kind (concealed in the deep, dark corners of bills that no one ever looks at, except Tom Coburn, John McCain and Jeff Flake, and us geeks who read their sites, Porkbusters, Sunlight and CAGW).

But frankly, anything fiscal will do. As, potentially, judges could if and only if we talk first and foremost about reversing crappy decisions like Kelo v. New London, and quit talking about gay marriage and abortion the whole time-- which frankly just makes many of us who, again, prioritize the fiscal and small government issues over social stuff, feel disinterested and annoyed.

Liz Mair is the editor of WWW.GOPPROGRESS.COM, a RedState-style blog for libertarian, mainstream and moderate Republicans

Social issues by Aurelian

To say that the Congress is more concerned about banning gay marriage than {insert whatever issue is deemed to be more important}, is to parrot a liberal canard. Congress devoted a few days to trying to stop a handful of activist, leftwing judges from redefining marriage, and the media and the Dems act as if all other issues would be solved if not for this 'distraction' and exercise in 'wedge politics of division.'

Why does trying to return the judiciary to its proper role annoy you? Marriage and abortion are two of the best examples to illustrate the difference between the perverse, absurd, ludicrous living constitution nonsense of the Left/Dems and the pro-democracy, conservative vision of restraint, strict constructionism, and originalism. Yes, Kelo is also a good example, but you do realize that the Sup Court justices lined up pretty much the same in that case as they do on your dreaded social issues.

I get that many libertarians support gay marriage and abortion rights, and that's fine, but what I don't get is how they can actually believe that the Constitution in any way contains a right to abortion or requires the recognition of same-sex unions. If one believes that, then it would make no sense to oppose a completely open-ended interpretation of the General Welfare Clause in pursuit of ever-larger government.

And with regards to these social issues, what exactly is a 'moderate, mainstream, Republican'? Most people, let alone most Republicans, at least oppose abortion on demand, while the mainstream nature of opposing gay marriage is beyond dispute considering polls, and more importantly, its overwhelming rejection everytime the people have voted on it.

As someone else said, highlighting the judge-issue on social issues may not play well for vulnerable Republicans in more blue parts of the nation, but there is no reason not to make a big deal of it in red states where Republicans are in trouble; and unfortunately, there are way too many of them this time.

And by Aurelian

The best way to finally be rid of these social issues on a national level every two years is to finally right the Courts. Then most of the battles would be at the state level, where they belong.

Are two different things. Judges work as an issue almost exclusively because of the social issues. That's not to come down on one side or other. But outside of Kelo there really aren't any notable decisions that get people in an uproar that are not "social issue" cases.

And while you are a very interesting commenter/poster/blogger Liz, I personally have come to the conclusion that there are far more people for whom BOTH things matter than there are people who wish the social issues would go away completely. I used to be like you - the old country-clubbers - hawkish on fiscal policy but pretty blase about anything beyond that. Since high school (from the sound of it I may be a touch older than you, but not much) I have onsistently drifted away from that. I will always be a fiscal guy (being an econ major in college and a tax guy in law school makes it difficult not to be), but social issues are important. There are not many of the so-called "fiscal conservative/socially liberal" folks left. Most people who are really focused on fiscal policy wind up being more socially indifferent than socially liberal - the issues are simply not going to decide their votes.

Conservatives need to talk about both sets of issues - whether the "Main Street Partnership" types like it or not, the mainstream of the Republican Party is not Chris Shays and Olympia Snowe. The mainstream is socially conservative, and to ignore those issues, or downplay them risk a larger bloc of voters than "talking about them too much."

There are not many of the so-called "fiscal conservative/socially liberal" folks left. Most people who are really focused on fiscal policy wind up being more socially indifferent than socially liberal - the issues are simply not going to decide their votes.

Not only that, but most politicians that are described as such are not "fiscally conservative" at all. Arnold, for example. Or any Democrat that is called "fiscally conservative."
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Hyphenated Conservatism by Neil Stevens

Hyphenated conservatism is a lot like hyphenated Americanism: if you have to qualify it, you're missing the point.

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Ding! by docj

Well said.

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in this calculus. I don't think the West is socially liberal other than the strip from SD to SEA and west of the mountains, but it is pretty much socially libertarian; people don't much care what you do as long as you don't try to get them to do it or pay for it. For the most part, the Western states are fiscally pragmatic. Because of their huge areas and relatively sparse populations, the people accept that there are many things that must be done by either the state or federal government, so they are not averse to government spending on things where there is a political consensus regarding the need. The "do it with local money" small government mantra that works in the Eastern and Southern states doesn't really work in states that have counties bigger than lots of those states.

The GOP has a tenuous hold on the mountain West; all it takes is a Democrat that isn't rabidly pro-abortion, anti-development, anti-gun/military, and pro-gay marriage, and Ds can get elected most anywhere in the mountain West. Here in Alaska, Tony Knowles' liberal challenger in the D Primary had a 100% NRA rating and sponsored the "carry unless prohibited" legislation that the Republican legislature passed.

In Vino Veritas

Somethings are a matter of timing. Sure Social Issues are important, mostly when Liberals are in power because they always work to undermine them, However, Right now the looming domestic problem is our runaway costs and an impending fiscal crises.
I think that is where the focus should be right now.

"Nothing works like freedom, Nothing succeeds like liberty"
Kyle

Not only are social issue smore important than the cost of taxes, but Soc Cons are the base of the GOP. The fact is, many of us consider the holocaust of 1.5 million babies per year to be slightly more important than whether taxes are raised. As someone who tends to fall on the party line of God agys,a nd guns, let's not forget that it was not the Fiscal conservatives that won the 2004 election for the GOP-but us. the so called Christian Right that won the election for the GOP, and we will not be like the majority of African Americans who let the Dims take them for granted. If we stop getting our interests hear, we will simply not turn out and the GOP will be reminded of the cost of leaving out the Social issues. Immigration is probably a good place to start as any, but judges mobilizes our base far more than taxes does-just as someone said, the Rockefeller Republicans are over-I know Neil will call me a neo-con ;), but I am not against using the government to advance conservative causes, and I don't think I am alone in the new makeup of the GOP.

"When possible we are bringing terrorists to justice. And when necessary, we are bringing justice to the terrorists."-Secretary Rice

When you take progressive ideology and apply it to conservative ideas, that's a neo-con to a T. And yes, I do think neo-cons have a place in the party, having been part of the tide that has taken Republicans to a national majority.

Doesn't mean I have to agree with them though, heh. I just have to live with them.
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Big tent by zuiko

As someone who tends to fall on the party line of God agys,a nd guns, let's not forget that it was not the Fiscal conservatives that won the 2004 election for the GOP-but us.

It takes everybody to win elections. If Bush had raised taxes instead of cut them, he would not be in the White House right now. Even if he didn't raise them but also didn't get his cuts through it would've been enough to lose him the 2004 election. Taxes are a huge issue and always will be.
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Certainly by BlackRepub

And I like my taxes lowered as well, and I think we all know raising taxes is political suicide for any pol. I think Dubya learnede from his father's mistake on the tax front. But I think it would be sorely mistaken to not see the SocCons and the Neo-Cons as the new driving forces behind the GOP. Post 9/11 Buchanan like paleoconservatism is dead, with good reason, and fiscal conservatism, quite frankly doesn't turn out the base like the social iissues do. Certainly I would agree you are punished for ignoring it, but I don't know how much you are rewarded for putting being a fiscal conservative at the top of your agenda-just think about the major issues facing the GOP nominees in 2008. Romney, McCain, Guliani, even Allen-the biggest questions facing them are where do they stand on the social issues like gay marriage and abortion, not so much where do they stand on taxes. IMHO, I think that's a reflection of the direction of the GOP.

"When possible we are bringing terrorists to justice. And when necessary, we are bringing justice to the terrorists."-Secretary Rice

Terms by zuiko

I don't know about all these terms, but paleocons *are* socially conservative. They are not fiscal conservatives. They generally like high taxes (punative tarrifs, high income tax). They don't seem to care much about spending. They just take the traditional social conservative agenda and add on isolationism and a leftist/socialist view on taxes, economics, and regulation.

The definition of neocon seems to depend greatly upon who is using it. On the left it is often used as a synonym for the Joooooooos who are secretly running our foreign policy for Israel's benefit to the detriment of US interests, or, as you pointed out, because it reminds them of neonazis.

Fiscal conservatism is often used by people who like to raise taxes and use the ever-present budget deficit or lack of money for "x" as an excuse.

Most conservatives are just conservatives, with elements of both social and fiscal conservatism. The priorities will vary by individual, but most of the party (and almost the entire activist portion) is supportive of the whole package... low taxes, small government, and social conservatism.

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Was the death of isolationism in a post 9/11 world. I'm a government major, and I took a class on the rise of conservatism last year; we looked at paleoconservatism and neo-conservastism only in terms of foreign policy; I would agree that the activist wing is composed most of the people you mentioned. My basic point has been that in terms of turnout, our sexiest issues that turn out voters are in the Social Conservative arena; tax revolts are great, but the are few and far between. Our trump cards right now are immigration, national security and judges. Why we have failed to trumpet any of those(aside from the factt hat we can't get a concrete position on immigration) is beyond me.

"When possible we are bringing terrorists to justice. And when necessary, we are bringing justice to the terrorists."-Secretary Rice

But it seems to me that more people are getting sucked into it now than have been since the 70s. It is a alluring idea to many... All we need to do is spend money on the next new magical oil replacement (bio fuels, hydrogen, electric cars, whatever). Then we can just pull out of Iraq, Afghanistan, the Middle east, Asia, Africa and the rest of the world and hide. Turn off the lights and pretend that nobody is home and the Islamofascists will take their terror somewhere else. Of course it won't work, but that doesn't stop people from falling for it.
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Well I would agree by BlackRepub

That part of winning the GWOT involves coming up with a new source of energy, because cutting the terrorists financing devastates their operation. My solution is to go nuclear, which is actually underway in Europe and has only been screwed up once-in Chernobyl-by the Soviets, who were so dysfunctional they could have screwed up running water. However, after replacing an energy source, we go for the knockout blow with a no holds barred military campaign that the Islamofascists would never be able to recover from, especially with no financial backing. But I agree with you, 9/11 for us, the Madrid bombing and the London attacks should remind everyone that these people's desire cannot be appeased, for their desire is an Islamic empire from "Spain to Iraq." This is war-it's past time we gave them one.

"When possible we are bringing terrorists to justice. And when necessary, we are bringing justice to the terrorists."-Secretary Rice

As it applies to me, with someone like you Neil, who correctly understands the definition. My problem, is that our more liberal friends, who know so much that isn't so, sling the label around because of its resembalnce to neo-nazi than to the actual ideology. But I'm glad we can agree to disagree in the Big Tent.

"When possible we are bringing terrorists to justice. And when necessary, we are bringing justice to the terrorists."-Secretary Rice

watch out on the security issues by hekebolos from dKos

Win the War: This should be obvious, but this year we are seeing too many Republicans run against the President on the War on Terror at home, in Iraq, at Guantanamo Bay, and in the rest of the world.

We need to talk as aggressively about the last five years as we did in 2004. Imagine if the Democrats were in power these last two years, and we were now reading stories about all those planes exploding in the air.

The problem with this is that the public sees an increasing disconnect between the occupation of Iraq and the GWOT. Homegrown terrorism, whether in Great Britain or here at home in the U.S., by its very essence, disproves the "fighting them there so we don't have to fight them here" logic that justifies the continued occupation of Iraq.

Further, it is hard to see how exactly a Democratic congress would have resulted in the failure of British and Pakistani intelligence to disrupt the airplane plot. One of the reasons that Republicans are having a harder time in 2006 is that the public is increasingly not buying into the "if Democrats regain power you will die a fiery death" campaign strategy that has been a Republican hallmark for the past two election cycles.

As for immigration? I fully agree with the poster here. The continued lack of significantly increased enforcement--both at the border and against companies that hire illegal labor--is mind-boggling, and it is beyond me why we don't spend more time and money enforcing the laws that are already on the books.

The idea of vigorously enforcing existing laws is a great one. The only problem is that President Bush steadfastly refuses to do so. It brings me no joy in saying so, but there is no reason to think he would start now, as he is a true believer in unlimited immigration. I mean, even Clinton did more on interior enforcment...how sad is that?

As to the Sup Court, as others have said, Stevens (and maybe Ginsburg too) is likely holding out and hoping for a Dem sweep this Nov, so Bush can't replace him with a conservative. If we lose yet another chance to finally right the Court, then the consequences could be fatal for the GOP if a Roe-like decision is handed down with regards to marriage. The Christian conservative base will expect something to be done quickly, and if it is not, then they will stop voting en masse for the the GOP and retreat from politics, rightly concluding that the fight against judicial activism is hopeless. Then the GOP will be screwed.


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